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janeiro 20, 2005
A tribute to George Bush
To the recently appointed President of the biggest country on the face of the earth, "Home Saints" pays its tribute to someone who surely knows what America is all about.
Publicado por FG Santos às janeiro 20, 2005 06:27 PM
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I don't understand quite well what you are trying to say, FG Saints.
As for me, i believe, not in Bush itself, but in the values of 1776. The imortal values of the Constitution of the United States os America.
Publicado por: Nelson Buiça em janeiro 20, 2005 11:48 PM
After what you have just said, my dear Nelson, it is I that do not understand what you are trying to say. The imortal values, as you say, rely on the principle of Freedom and not on Democracy, a word that the Founding Fathers loathed.
These principles, like the book Mr. Bush grabs in the photo, are today completely upside down.
Publicado por: FG Santos em janeiro 21, 2005 09:39 AM
They loathed WHAT???
"...We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers FROM THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO ALTER OR TO ABOLISH IT, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness...."
if this is not Democracy...i am Santa Claus!
Publicado por: Nelson Buiça em janeiro 21, 2005 06:42 PM
The problem with you, Santa Claus, is that you call yourself a liberal but I never see your comments on http://blog.causaliberal.net/ (maybe you never go there), otherwise you should have read this article:
2004/12/20
Alguém diga a José Manuel Fernandes...
...que a palavra "democracia" não aparece uma única vez nem na Declaração da Independência, nem nos Artigos da Confederação, nem sequer na Constituição Americana.
Isto a propósito do seu comentário a "The Roads to Modernity The British, French, and Americam Enlightnments" Gertrude Himmelfarb (talvez a "mãe" NeoCon uma vez que o seu marido é o "pai" Irving Kristol,e seu filho Bill Kristoll [Weekly Standard])
"...[d]aqueles que fundaram a primeira República moderna, os "founding fathers" (país fundadores) da democracia americana."
E, como disse, Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn, em "Leftism Revisited" (Washington D.C.: Regnery Gateway, 1990):
"Of the American founders, Alexander Hamilton was a monarchist. Likewise, the Governor of Pennsylvania, Robert Morris, has a strong monarchist leanings. George Washington expressed his profound distate of democracy in a letter of September 30, 1798, to James McHenry. John Adams was convinced that every society grows aristocrats as inevitably as a field of corn will grow some large ears and some small. In a letter to John Taylor he insisted, like Plato and Aristotle, that democracy would ultimately envolve into despotism, aind in a letter to Jefferson he declared that "democracy will envy all, contend with all, endeavor to pull down all, and when by chance it happens to get the upper hand for a short time, it will be revengeful, bloody and cruel". James Madison, in a letter to Jared Parks, complained of the difficulty "of protecting the rights of property against the spirit of democracy". And even Thomas Jefferson, probably the most "democratic" of the Founders, confessed in a letter to John Adams that he considered:
the natural aristocracy...as the most precious gift of nature, for the instruction, the trusts and governments of society...may we not even say that that form of government is best, which provides most effectually for a pure selection of these natural aristoi into the offices of government?
Characterizing the general attitude of the founders, them, the most appropriate pronouncement is that of John Randolph of Roanoke: "I am an aristocrat: i love liberty, i hate equality"
posted by CN : 12/20/2004 01:26:00 AM
Publicado por: FG Santos em janeiro 21, 2005 08:03 PM
FG Saints, as far as i can see you are more specifically democrat than myself.
The word 'democracy' isn´t there but, (and there is always a 'but'...no, no not a 'BUTT', unfortunatelly :-)) the ideia is there.
I can see (true) democracy in much more things than 'this democracy' that we have.
To be a democrat we dont necessarly need the word.
We need the spirit.
I think that nowadays, the people who use the word 'democracy' a lot are the least democrats of all.
Perhaps even totalitarian.
I support the concept of equality 4th July of 1776, not the concept of 14 july 1789.
They are different concepts....and that made a lot of difference: tha ascension of the USA and the fall of Europe.
Europeans should think a bit (a lot) about this.
Publicado por: Nelson Buiça em janeiro 23, 2005 05:15 PM